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Friday, 30 November 2012

Five for Friday: Why I think Chris Brown shouldn't perform in SA

  • There's this. Warning, it's not for sensitive readers.
  • It's 16 days of activism for no violence against women and children. See that, why would we want someone to perform here just days after 16 days ends? We'd be looking away then, one of the things you shouldn't do.
  • We're rewarding him. Not only does he beat up someone he claims to love, pretty much gets away with it, and now people are putting money into his pockets. Yes, I know there are a lot of people not going, who don't buy his music - and that's great, but surely more is in order.
  • It's important to say something, by not we'll never do something. This condoning and rewarding of such horrible, vile behaviour will only lead to more people thinking it's ok - so they'll carry on and not change their ways because there are no consequences.
  • I'm under no illusion that my tiny voice of protest will change something, but if more of us say or do something you'll never know what could happen.
A late addition, but this...this is what I wish everyone got.

  7 comments:

  1. OK. You want his concerts banned. But let's be accurate about this.

    1. The much publicised transcript of what happened is horrendous, disgusting, despicable. That's because it's what happened in a violent crime. That's what violent crime is. We all saw the photos, and it was a cowardly and deplorable act.
    But.

    2. Actually, the concerts all fall outside the 16 days of activism. It would be great if you could use this as a bargaining point, but it doesn't work that way. I'm against the whole 16 days thing anyway: I think it devalues the other 349 days of the year. My point is that if you feel that the concerts should be banned, then surely you feel they should be banned at any time of the year, not just because they nearly fall in a certain period of activism.

    3. We're rewarding him for beating someone up? No. "We're" paying him for doing his job. Singing. Just like "we're" doing with Lady Gaga tonight and everyone else that sings at concerts.

    4. Probably the most important point. He did not "pretty much get away with it". He was arrested, charged, found guilty, convicted and sentenced. There was no "getting away with it" here. To suggest otherwise is blatant misinformation. If your issue is perhaps with his sentence, you should read this [ http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1614470/legal-expert-talks-chris-brown-sentence.jhtml ] and anyway how is that his fault? Are you having a dig at Chris Brown or at the US Justice System here? How can your misinterpreted view of Brown's sentence be cause for banning a concert?

    5. I can't see how attending a concert can be equated with condoning violence against women. Do you honestly believe that everyone going to the concerts will beat up their wife or girlfriend? Do you really think that everyone not attending the gigs will treat their female partner with respect?
    If someone goes to the Red Hot Chili Peppers concerts, are they condoning drug use? After all, their lead singer did once have an (illegal) drug problem.

    6. You're more than entitled to your opinion that the concerts should be banned, and indeed I could agree with you on this, but then we'd both be wrong.

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    1. Hi Lorna,

      First thanks for keeping it polite :).

      I'll start with number 5 first. I don't believe that everyone not attending the gigs treats their partner with respect, but I do believe that by supporting anyone that does anything illegal - be it the drug issue you mentioned or Brown's actions in this case does send a message of support not only for the performer, but also for the actions that person took. This might be too general a view for some, but it is how I feel. When you put yourself in the spotlight there should be an awareness that although you wouldn't it want it to be that way, all of your actions say something. Hence my comment that he is being rewarded for his behaviour.

      My take of pretty much getting away with it is is because community service, although time consuming is no real punishment.

      I agree with you that it should be banned the whole year. And yes, we do need activism all the time - in fact I took out my sentence saying just that when writing the post.

      All in all though, I still don't think he should perform in SA.

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    2. Again. Get your facts right.
      He didn't do community service. He did "labor service". There's a huge difference.
      He also is on 5 years probation and had to attend a year on a anti domestic violence programme.
      But whether you are aware of this or not, the issue over the sentencing is no reason to ban a concert. As I stated before, you are confusing your issue with Brown with those over the US justice system.

      Your continuing insistence that going to concerts is supporting criminal behaviour is a stretch too far, I'm afraid. Do you also choose not to "reward" others with a criminal record. Is the manager of your local 7-11 squeaky clean? Have you asked if he has a criminal record? How he treats his wife?
      The mechanic working on your car. Never had any convictions? Sure? Because, you know, we wouldn't want to reward his criminality by paying him to change your spark plugs.

      Seriously. I admire your stance, but I hope you're applying it in all areas of your life and not just imposing it on others.

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    3. It comes down to the morality of every individual in asking themselves the following question, and whether or not one can still, afterwards, have a clear conscience:

      Can we simply turn a blind eye to a very public artist's reprehensible, shocking and disgusting behaviour, all for the sake of enjoying his "art"?

      More importantly, should we?

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    4. Lorna, labour service is community service. You're doing work for your State, is that not your community?

      There is no confusion over the US justice system and Brown here. My view is my view, and in no way am I imposing it on others. I'll stick to my view that he is a criminal, and that supporting a criminal is wrong; and you can - as is your right - stick to your view that it's all good.

      I think patmanmeister said it well. Should we ignore that behaviour?

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  2. Labor service is indeed doing work in your community. But don't be disingenuous, "labor service" and "community service" are very different when it comes to what the individual has to do as part of their punishment.

    So, as I asked. How far do you take your stance on not "supporting" criminals? Or is that just for other people, if and when it suits you to apply it.

    And no, attending a concert does not mean that you are ignoring that behaviour. It's not like he's going to beat up anyone on stage. If that were the case, I'd certainly support banning the concerts.

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  3. Do we also ban Rihanna (his current girlfriend)? Do we buy magazines that interview her?

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